Cuban Missile Crisis - Dynamic Historical Event IDEAS

[Viking Panda]

So I was going through the event folder and it is very empty. That's probably a good thing because it means all the crashes and shit we're experiencing is probably mostly not event related. That being said, the game still needs interesting content that adds value to a playthrough. I think we should aim for historical plausibility in our events. So for example, let's not make the Cuban missile crisis happen in the exactly the same year it did historically.

What if Cuba doesn't go communist? I think the event for the Cuban missile crisis should be something more open ended:

1. Soviet Union has a certain level of nuclear tech level and there is a country in south or central america that is communist. If these conditions are met the USSR gets the choice of making the decision: "Forward Missile Defence" (or something like that)
2. The target communist regime (it might be Mexico for example, or Brazil) gets some free nuclear bombs or some shit
3. Then the USA gets an event which asks how do they want to respond:

A) Invasion (they gain a casus belli)
B) Appeasement (the crisis is over but they loose prestige and national unity/gain dissent) or
C) Blockade (the communist country in the Americas gets a "total embargo" country modifier giving -50% production efficiency and -75% education efficiency)


If USA selects Invasion support for socialist and communist parties in the USA is +5%, USA has 50% chance of getting gaining dissent and loosing national unity
If USA selects Appeasement all non communist countries in Central and South America gain dissent and support for socialist and communist parties (+20% - +50% )
If USA selects Blockade, they gain national unity and prestige but USSR might declare war (10% chance)

What do you think? This is an example of an historical event that is dynamic enough to respond to an unhistorical world the player has created through normal progression of the game giving players options in how to respond.

This is what the original devs at BL Logic were trying to achieve I think.

Ideas?

[HansWormhat EvW-Dev]

Good thoughts. Although it would probably first need to research ICBMs in order to build missile silos, haha.

But seriously, that's probably a good set of circumstances. It can probably be fine-tuned, as in Step 1 (whichever country in Latin America becomes Communist, the USSR gets the option to accept that nation into ComIntern and thus make an alliance with that country).

At which point, the USSR gets the option to base nuclear missiles in that country.

Et cetera...

I feel like these circumstances could easily be a repeatable, vanilla event sequence as well. As in, whenever one of the superpowers makes any military agreement with another country, the opposing power has options similar to the ones you listed, as a reaction. Just to sort of keep the whole "tit-for-tat, sphere-of-influence" Great Game-style of Cold War interactions persistent throughout the game's timeline. Maybe add some options like, a random non-aligned country gains a huge boost in their bias towards the opposing power, and keep building proxies against one another.

[Viking Panda]

Now that I think about it, wasn't the soviet decision to put missiles in Cuba a direct result of US attempts to put missiles in Turkey? If so making a generic "build missile silos in X country" event makes more sense.

[HansWormhat EvW-Dev]

Dec 30, 2014 22:53:13 GMT Viking Panda said:

Now that I think about it, wasn't the soviet decision to put missiles in Cuba a direct result of US attempts to put missiles in Turkey? If so making a generic "build missile silos in X country" event makes more sense.

Correct.  I was also wondering how locating missiles works, as a side note.  I haven't progressed far enough to see what that might entail.

[Viking Panda]

Dec 31, 2014 0:29:03 GMT HansWormhat EvW-Dev said:

Correct.  I was also wondering how locating missiles works, as a side note.  I haven't progressed far enough to see what that might entail.

welcome to the world of modding haha

[quaza]

Why not create a decission that simulates nuclear sharing? for example The US has still to this day nukes stationed in Germany. It would be cool if the Majors could decide to give nukes to there allies, For example i play as the Soviets and i want to give 10 or so nukes to the GDR and if at War they can use them. i feel like this would be a really fun mechanic. i dont know if that would be possible to simulate  with just events tho.

[nguyenthepatriot]

Dec 30, 2014 22:16:56 GMT Viking Panda said:

So I was going through the event folder and it is very empty. That's probably a good thing because it means all the crashes and shit we're experiencing is probably mostly not event related.

There do seem to be a fair few events, a lot more than HoI3, they are just in the mod folders. There are some noticeable gaps in content though, like the German and Japanese allied occupations.
There's a Cuban Revolution chain, but apparently no Cuban Missile Crisis one.

I do like your ideas on a dynamic missile crisis chain.

[chainosaurusrex]

nations just handing nukes to each other doesn't make a lot of sense, the soviet nukes in cuba and the american nukes in germany were both controlled by their parent countries, not the countries they were placed in. It would make more sense if countries had the option to ask to place their nukes in their allies territory, thus the usa and soviet union can strategically decide where they want their nukes but that doesn't actually give other countries nukes.

then if US intelligence discovers soviet nukes in a nearby country they get events where they can choose a course of action and that sparks the crisis.